this thread is dedicated to our beloved poster of 13 years perry and his parrot.
for those who are new to jwc perry is the foremost apologist for christian fundamentalism and all its shining truths.
he previously posted a thread entitled atheist miracles.
After saying this, he spit on the ground, made some mud with the saliva, and put it on the man’s eyes. 7 “Go,” he told him, “wash in the Pool of Siloam” (this word means “Sent”). So the man went and washed, and came home seeing..Why didn’t Jesus simply say something like “You can see now”
It could have been worse.
if you were a jw in the late 70s into the late 80s you might have been one of those brothers or sisters that just happened to be in the right kingdom hall and with the right people.
during that time being a jw wasnt too bad if you were able to establish the right connections.
a person could pioneer for a while and be appointed as a ministerial servant in a year or two and within 5 years you could be an elder in your twentys.
You heard the saying, “Why rock the boat when the sailing is great”
If you were a JW in the late 70s into the late 80s you might have been one of those brothers or sisters that just happened to be in the right Kingdom Hall and with the right people.
During that time being a JW wasn’t too bad if you were able to establish the right connections. A person could pioneer for a while and be appointed as a ministerial servant in a year or two and within 5 years you could be an elder in your twenty’s. If you married the right girl and had a decent job then life could be pretty good. You could actually picture yourself having a great life.
Everyone in the congregation respected you, and sooner or later you would develop close ties with certain families and become close friends and together you would go camping, cookouts, movies and do all sorts of things for entertainment. In the 8o’s the weekend Kingdom hall built took off and it was a great place to associate with friends and be a part of something to talk about for years.
And to top the whole scenario with icing, you were the generation that would see the End of a Wicked System of Things.
So why rock the boat with apostate thinking?
You would hear of stories of many brothers and sisters, including a member of the Governing Body leaving the TRUTH. Who cares, if they want to die and lose out on paradise, it’s their problem.
Then came the 90s. Out of the blue the WT magazines comes out with an article that the generation of 1914 might not be the last generation.
The article was not very clear but the implications were earth shaking. “I might grow old and die”
You see life was great, and I didn’t want it to end. And I was offered a guarantee that my life would not end. But now the guarantee was becoming void. There was no need to rock the boat at first, but now the Watchtower was the one that started rocking the boat.
The Watchtower boat is now sailing on turbulent waters. Many of the old ones won’t jump because they feel they are too old to swim. But the young ones are jumping ship and swimming as fast as they can.
But that’s
why many today are leaving the organization earlier than in times past. The
waters are not as calm in the WT Ocean as they were in the past. And now, you can actually see the storm.
heyo!.
i'm quite interested in knowing the average age of those of us who use this forum.
i made a quick strawpoll that you can find at the following link: http://strawpoll.me/4340636 just pick an age and click "vote" if you wish to participate.. admins: if this breaks any rules, i apologize in advance..
I'm
first time, been lurking for years, but i asked my husband who has been studying for 20 plus years if he has ever questioned those that were "teaching" him.
blew my mind.
i ask him all the questions that you have asked yourself, but he will not ask them.
Welcome LHM
Welcome and yes its very amazing how people will just follow along never questioning a thing
JUMP!!
i saw this on facebook.
i'm nauseous from reading.
it's just another example of how some will go so far to make up bs and pawn it off as "truth.".
So finally, the man followed the dog’s lead
Hello is this the Kingdom Hall?
i know there are another 100 threads probably started on this.
i can't help but to wonder how would anyone be able to defend the existence of the fds at this point.
could anyone play devils advocate?
I can't help but to wonder how would anyone be able to defend the existence of the FDS at this point
It’s not just about defending the FDS, but also defending “The Organization”
Two different entities that work for the same purpose and that require the same devotion and obedience. It about as crazy as the sign in the book of Revelation; where people worshiped the dragon because it gave the authority to the wild beast, and they worshiped the wild beast .
To tamper with the FDS is to tamper with the “Organization” of God. So they might not be able to defend the existence of the FDS with words, but they can defend it with the sword of execution, (disfellowshipping) which is carried out by the “executive” part of the Organization. No need to defend.
$ 1 dollar a week x 8 million jws = $ 8 million dollars a week.
$ 8 million x 52 weeks in a year = $ 416 million dollars a year.
and its all tax free.. you know jws donate more than $ 1 dollar a week!
I mentioned to him about the societies financial problems.
Just because the Watchtower is pleading for more money doesn't necessarily mean they are having financial problems. It's the oldest trick in the book.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/13/living/creflo-dollar-jet-feat/
i am 30 and i am hoping to meet the brother who i will love me for me and would want to marry me.
i want to marry only in the lord but as the balance of brothers and sisters are not even and i am getting older as time goes by, im kinda a little panicky now.
;(
I want to marry only in the Lord
That can mean different things to different people
Did Esther marry in the lord? King Ahasue′rus Persian
Did King David marry in the lord? Bathsheba (Married to another man)
Did Moses marry in the lord? Zipporah Midian
$ 1 dollar a week x 8 million jws = $ 8 million dollars a week.
$ 8 million x 52 weeks in a year = $ 416 million dollars a year.
and its all tax free.. you know jws donate more than $ 1 dollar a week!
In all my life as a JW the total I contributed over a 30 year period was less than $50.00
Man, I wish I could say that about myself. In the congregation I attended, and I lived in a City close to the border of Mexico where education was nil and poverty is rampant, monthly contributions were between 5k to 10k monthly. We had many business owners in all sorts of trades making more than doctors.
We will never know how much the WT actually collects since they will NEVER print financial statements. But the point is that the WT views $ 1 dollar differently than a normal average person. Just .50 cents a week from each member would pull in more than $ 200 million dollars a year TAX FREE.
It's the advantage of the bigger you are the more advantage you have even in little things-economies of scale
after todays watchtower lesson, and the lessons coming, something tells me bigger and bigger new understandings are coming.
and that it will culminate with 1914. notice how jesus is now coming, and no longer already here.
the current understanding is both, he is here and hes also coming.
History suggests they will not abandon 1914
Business wise 1914 is the WT’s best product. It is the cash cow of the organization. It is what keeps the money rolling in. Nothing else the organization does matters. Overlapping generation, Faithful and discreet slave, types and antitypes is just new products that are being marketing to try to draw in new customers-(members-children)
They are smart enough to know that changing 1914 drastically could have serious repercussions financially for the organization. They are knowledgeable enough to know that to get rid of 1914 is tantamount to Lambert Pharmacal Co. getting rid of Listerine mouth wash or Procter & Gamble getting rid of Ivory soap.
You just don’t mess with your Cash Cow.
All these changes are just market ploys to try to attract and retain future members (Children being baptized) or the unwary.
1914 will stay until it is not being bought by anyone anymore. Then they will get rid of it.
You don't tug on Superman's cape.
You don't spit into the wind.
You don't pull the mask off that old Lone Ranger.
And you don't mess around with 1914
